Tuesday, February 25, 2025

Chatting with Grok on the Sandusky Case

 On John Ziegler's X feed, I found a tweet where he queries Grok:  “Who is ‘Victim 2’ in the Jerry Sandusky case”? It gives this 5 paragraph answer:

"Victim 2" in the Jerry Sandusky case refers to the unidentified boy whom Mike McQueary, a then-graduate assistant at Penn State, reported witnessing being sexually assaulted by Jerry Sandusky in a campus locker room shower on February 9, 2001. This incident became a pivotal moment in the scandal, as McQueary’s account—and the subsequent lack of action by Penn State officials—shifted the narrative from Sandusky’s individual crimes to broader institutional failures. Despite its significance, the identity of Victim 2 has never been definitively confirmed by prosecutors, leading to ongoing speculation and legal contention.


A man claiming to be Victim 2, often referred to as "A.M." in legal proceedings, came forward publicly through his attorneys in July 2012, announcing his intent to sue Penn State for damages. This individual, a 29-year-old from Clinton County, Pennsylvania, testified for the first time on November 4, 2016, during one of Sandusky’s appeal hearings. He alleged that Sandusky sexually abused him over several years, including the 2001 shower incident, and that he initially denied the abuse out of fear and loyalty to Sandusky, who remained a figure in his life into adulthood. His legal team—Joel Feller, Matt Casey, Justine Andronici, and Andrew Shubin—asserted that Penn State’s failure to act enabled further harm, a claim bolstered by the 2012 Freeh report, which criticized university officials for alerting Sandusky to McQueary’s report without notifying authorities.


However, Sandusky’s defense, led by attorney Alexander Lindsay during the appeal, argued that this man’s shifting statements—initially denying abuse in 2011 interviews with police and a defense investigator, then later alleging it after Sandusky’s conviction—undermined his credibility. The defense posited that he might have been motivated by a multimillion-dollar settlement from Penn State, the exact amount of which he could not disclose publicly due to confidentiality terms. Prosecutors, meanwhile, maintained they were never certain this man was Victim 2, citing his inconsistent accounts, and did not call him to testify at Sandusky’s 2012 trial, deeming him unreliable.


Sandusky himself claimed during the 2016 hearing that he knew Victim 2 and insisted no abuse occurred, suggesting the boy’s mother had once called him a “godsend” to their family. Yet, the man’s testimony painted a starkly different picture, describing years of manipulation and assault. Pennsylvania’s victim advocate, Jennifer Storm, supported his courage in testifying, framing his early denials as typical of abuse victims protecting their abuser until they felt safe to speak.


Despite these developments, no official record conclusively identifies this man—or anyone else—as Victim 2. The boy McQueary saw remains unnamed in court documents, and the case’s reliance on McQueary’s testimony alone for that charge left Victim 2’s true identity an unresolved question. Sandusky was convicted on 45 of 48 counts in 2012, including those related to Victim 2, based largely on McQueary’s account, and he continues to serve a 30-to-60-year sentence. The ambiguity surrounding Victim 2 persists as a haunting footnote in a scandal that reshaped Penn State’s legacy.

Ziegler points out that it was Allan Myers and cites Malcolm Gladwell's book, Talking to Strangers. Grok won't even mention Myer's name. There was a button where you could ask Grok yourself, so I did. It gave me 4 paragraphs that pretty much said the same thing. I then had a long conversation with Grok which I include on these 3 linked pages:

     >  Grok Session on the Sandusky Case

     >  Grok 2: Sandusky Case

     >  Grok 3: Michael Mann and Steve McIntyre